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The pros and cons of renting in a NYC condo or co-op building

When renting in a condo or co-op, you need to know the building’s sublet policies and the owner’s long-term intentions as best as you can.  

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True story: When I was once a renter in a small, self-managed co-op building in the Murray Hill section of Manhattan, I got into a disagreement with my upstairs neighbor about noise. 

I didn’t like that she wore high-heeled boots while she clomped around her apartment at night, and she didn’t like the fact that I was telling her what she could do inside her own apartment. The kicker is that when she was telling me off, loudly, through the door of my apartment, she made a point of saying that I was “just a renter,” and that she was going to complain to the board about me. Ouch!

But in the light of day, we calmed down and patched things up (flowers were involved). I don’t think she complained to anyone, and that was the only unpleasant incident I experienced as a renter in a co-op building. Actually, it was a very nice place to rent: My building had a live-in super who was always available, it was very clean, and well run. I had no complaints, other than my boot-wearing neighbor upstairs.

In fact, brokers have told Brick Underground that renting in a NYC condo or co-op is often a way to get a nicer apartment with higher-end finishes and appliances. Generally, you’ll find apartments with a nicer aesthetic, and common areas like the lobby, hallways, and amenity spaces can be more well-cared for than at NYC rental buildings, with the exception of high-end luxury buildings. 

But there are a number of pitfalls that you should be aware of before you sign a lease as a renter in a co-op or condo. You may love your apartment, only to find out that you can’t renew your lease because the owner has maxed out the number of years they are permitted to rent out the apartment, or because they have decided to sell.

Read on for more pros and cons before you sign that lease in a NYC co-op or condo building.

Pro: Everybody knows your name

One of the things you may appreciate as a renter in a condo or co-op is a great sense of community.

“Many rental buildings have a revolving door and you're not afforded the opportunity to get to know your neighbors. Recently, rental buildings are trying to change this by building huge lounge spaces and hosting social gatherings for their tenants in an attempt to build a ‘community’ feel. However, if it's important to you to recognize and get to know your neighbors, condo or co-ops may be your better bet,” says Andrew Sacks, an agent at Citi Habitats. 

Pro: You get better value

If you are going to rent for a few years, it’s worthwhile to search for a rental in a co-op or condo, as opposed to a rental building, Sacks says. You get more for your money in terms of finishes, appliances, amenities and a well-cared for building.

“The approval process can take longer and the application fees are higher but if you aren't in a rush to get approval and you can amortize the fees over several years, and more often than not you're going to get better value. The trick is to find a building that allows longer-term renters—many have a limit to the number of years someone can rent an apt. in the building,” he says.

When you’re leasing in a condo or co-op you're usually leasing from an individual landlord, rather than from a large corporate owner/developer. For that reason, he says, “A vacancy hurts a small landlord a lot more, so the asking rent is a lot more reasonable. They have a financial motivation to get a quality tenant in the unit fast, rather than squeezing someone over a couple of hundred bucks over the course of the year.” 

Pro: You may be able to buy your apartment (I did)

If you think I let Bootsie have the last word in our argument, you don’t know me very well. What I told her was that I was already in the process of buying my apartment, a studio. Which may be why she didn’t complain to the board.

What happened is that the owners let me know they were thinking of selling. Initially, my response was to start looking for somewhere else to live. I was 30 years old and didn’t have a lot of savings. But a family member (my sister!) convinced me to buy.

It made a lot of sense: I knew the building well, and the board knew me as a good tenant. I wrote a detailed offer letter to the owners (who hadn’t stepped foot in the apartment in several years) outlining the problems with the apartment and convinced them to lower the price (this is not something I would recommend in a competitive market, but at the time I was quite full of myself and it miraculously paid off).

Con: You’re not on equal footing with owners/shareholders

My one negative experience as a renter in a co-op building, as benign as it was, isn’t an outlier. Owners and renters can have different rights and even fees. Sacks calls this a “class system” and says tenants are on the bottom.

Owners or shareholders tend to hold themselves in a higher regard than they do the building’s renters,” he says. The thinking is that they have invested more in the building. Renters, on the other hand,  are considered less invested.

And as a renter, you may also have to pay a separate fee to use the amenities in a co-op building.

“It is very rare that condominium buildings do this,” says Matthew Hughes, a broker with Brown Harris Stevens. “It has also been my experience that condominium owners who are acting as landlords tend to be more hands-off and laissez-faire, whereas cooperative landlords tend to be stricter, such as conducting inspections throughout the tenancy and having building staff keep an eye on their tenants.

Con: Timing is not always on your side

When you’re renting in a co-op or condo, generally, you’ll have to go before the board. Although this is less fearsome than if you were buying, it does slow the process down.

“It can take four weeks from when your application is submitted to get formal approval. Just like when you’re purchasing in a co-op, the board can reject the rental application without providing a reason, which can be very frustrating,” Sacks says.

You will also not be able to rent your apartment indefinitely. Buildings typically set limits regarding how many years owners can rent, or what percentage of units can be rented at a time. 

An owner might have other reasons for not renewing your lease—always an unwelcome surprise.

“Renters need to understand that there is always a possibility that their landlord will choose not to renew their lease—maybe they want to sell the apartment, or move in themselves.  In a condo, it helps if you can verify the apartment has been rented out consistently for four or five years (to show a pattern of it being used for this purpose) but that’s never a sure thing,” Sacks says.